Lillie Baccus Interviewed By Irene Robertson

Interviewer: Miss Irene Robertson

Person interviewed: Lillie Baccus, Madison, Arkansas

Age: 73

"I'll tell you what I heard. I was too little to remember the Civil War.

Mama's owner was ---- Dillard. She called him 'Master' Dillard. Papa's

owner was ---- Smith. He called him 'Master' Smith. Mama was named Ann

and papa Arthur Smith. I was born at West Point, Mississippi. I heard ma

say she was sold. She said Pattick sold her. She had to leave her two

children Cherry and Ann. Mama was a field hand. So was grandma yet she

worked in the house some she said. After freedom Cherry and Ann come to

mama. She was going to be sold agin but was freed before sold.

"Mama didn't live only till I was about three years old, so I don't know

enough to tell you about her. Grandma raised us. She was sold twice. She

said she run out of the house to pick up a star when the stars fell.

They showered down and disappeared.

"The Yankees camped close to where they lived, close to West Point,

Mississippi, but in the country close to an artesian well. The well was

on their place. The Yankees stole grandma and kept her at their tent.

They meant to take her on to wait on them and use but when they started

to move old master spicioned they had her hid down there. He watched out

and seen her when they was going to load her up. He went and got the

head man to make them give her up. She was so glad to come home. Glad to

see him cause she wanted to see him. They watched her so close she was

afraid they would shoot her leaving. She lived to be 101 years old. She

raised me. She used to tell how the overseer would whip her in the

field. They wasn't good to her in that way.

"I have three living children and eleven dead. I married twice. My first

husband is living. My second husband is dead. I married in day time in

the church the last time. All else ever took place in my life was hard

work. I worked in the field till I was too old to hit a tap. I live wid

my children. I get $8 and commodities.

"I come to Arkansas because they said money was easy to get--growed on

bushes. I had four little children to make a living for and they said it

was easier.

"I think people is better than they was long time ago. Times is harder.

People have to buy everything they have as high as they is, makes money

scarce nearly bout a place as hen's teeth. Hens ain't got no teeth. We

don't have much money I tell you. The Welfare gives me $8."

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