Pernella Anderson

El Dorado District


Name of Interviewer: Pernella Anderson

Subjects: Customs related to Slavery Time [HW: Ex Slave Story]

Subject: Food--Particular foods typical and characteristic of certain

localities and certain people (negroes)

[Nov 6 1936]

[TR: Additional topic moved from subsequent page.]

This information given by: Millie Evans (Negroes pronounce it Irvins)

Place of Residence: By Missouri Pacific Track near MOP Shops

Occupation: None

Age: 87

[TR: Personal information moved from bottom of interview.]

I wuz a young lady in the time of surrender. I am a slave chile. I am

one of them. I had a gran' time in slavery time. I wuz born wid de white

foks. I stayed wid mah muthah at night but mah mistress raised me. I

nussed mah mutha's gran'chile. I churned and sot de table. When de baby

go to sleep in de evenin' I put hit in de cradle. An' I'd lay down by

the cradle and go to sleep. Every evenin' I'd go git lida knots. I

played a lots. I wuz born 1849. We played Susanna Gals, and we just

played jump rope. Jes' we gals did. We played calling' cows. Dey'd come

to us and we run from um. My [TR: 'I' corrected to 'My'] mistess wuz a

millionaire. I went to school a while. I can count only lit bit. One uz

de girl made fun uz me. She kotch me nodding and we fit dare in de

school house. Old log school house. Dey had two big rooms. Ah went to de

ole fokes' church. Young un too. We'd cry if we didn't git ter go ter

church wid ma and pa.

Our table was sot under a china berry tree and ooo-eee chile I can see

hit now. We et on a loal (oil) table cloth. When dey called us to de

table dey would ring a bell. We didn' eat out uz plates. We et outn

gourds. We all et outn gourds. When I got big nuff ter cook I cooked

den. We had plenty to eat. We raised who-eee plenty meat. We raised our

sugar, rice, peas, chikens, eggs, cows. Who-eee chile we had plenty to

eat. Our mistess had ovah a hunert (100) niggers. Ole moster nevah did

whip none uv us niggers. He tended de men and mistess always tended to

us. I wudden (wasn't) quite grown when I wuz married. We cooked out in

de yard an' on fireplaces too in dose big ubbens (ovens). We cooked

greens in a wash pot jes like you boil clothes, dats de way we cook

greens. We cooked ash cakes too an we cooked persimmon braid (bread). An

evah thing we had wuz good too. We made our churns in dem days. Made dem

outn cypress.

Evahbody cried when dem yankees cried out: "Free." We cried too; we

hated hit so bad. We had such a good time. I is gittin so ole I can't

member so ever' thin' I done. Now chile ah cain't member evah' thin' I

done but in dem days we didn' have ter worry 'bout nothin'. Ole mistress

wuz de one ter worry. Twasn't den like hit is now. No Twasn't. Tother

niggers say dey had er hard time foe dem Yankee cried "Free" but it waz

den jes like hit is now if you had a hard time we done hit ourselves.

[HW: Negro food]

PERSIMMON PIE Make a crust like you would any other pie crust and take

your persimmons and wash them. Let them be good and ripe. Get the seed

out of them. Don't cook them. Mash them and put cinnamon and spice in

and butter. Sugar to taste. Then roll your dough and put in custard pan,

and then add the filling, then put a top crust on it, sprinkle a little

sugar on top and bake.

PERSIMMON CORNBREAD Sift meal and add your ingredients then your

persimmons that have been washed and the seeds taken out and mash them

and put in and stir well together. Grease pan well and pour in and bake.

Eat with fresh meat.

PERSIMMON BEER Gather your persimmons, wash and put in a keg, cover

well with water and add about two cups of meal to it and let sour about

three days. That makes a nice drink.

Boil persimmons just as you do prunes now day and they will answer for

the same purpose.

ASH CAKE Two cups of meal and one teaspoon of salt and just enough hot

water to make it stick together. Roll out in pones and wrap in a corn

shuck or collard leaves or paper. Lay on hot ashes and cover with hot

ashes and let cook about ten minutes.

CORNBREAD JOHNNY CAKE Two cups of meal, one half cup of flour about a

teaspoon of soda, one cup of syrup, one-half teaspoon salt, beat well.

Add teaspoon of lard. Pour in greased pan and bake.

[HW: Water or Milk added?]

(Old Mistress wud give us this corn bread johnny cake about four o'clock

in de evening and give us plenty of buttermilk to drink wid it. Dey had

a long trough. Dey kep' hit so clean fur us. Ev'ry evening about four

dey would fill de trough full uv milk and wus abut 100 of us chilluns.

We'd all get round de trough and drink wid our mouth and hold our johnny

cake in our han's. I can jes see mahself drinkin now. It wus so good.)

BEEF DUMPLINS Take the brough (meaning broth) from boiled beef and

season with salt, peper and add you dumplins jus as you would chicken


Pick and wash beet tops just as you would turnip greens and cook with

meat to season. Season to suit taste. This makes the best vegetable


POTATO BISCUIT Two cups flour. Two teaspoons of baking powder, pinch

of soda, teaspoon of salt, tablespoon of lard, two cups of cooked, well

mashed sweet potatoes and milk to make a nice dough.

IRISH POTATO PIE Boil potatoes, set off and let cool, then mash well

and add one cup sugar, two eggs, butter size of an egg, milk, spice to

suit taste, bake in pie crust. Irish potatoes make a better pie than

sweet potatoes.

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